Solution of Kashmir Dispute:
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Solution of Kashmir Dispute:
[Goodwill of People]:
The solution of Kashmir dispute lies in the goodwill of the people of India and Pakistan and not on the rhetoric of political leaders. It is easy for the political leaders to earn popularity pointing several causes of disagreement and get vote to remain in power. It is good for both the countries to talk less for Kashmir and more for the well beings of the people of both the nations. There should not be any point of disagreement between the two neighbor countries that were once a part of undivided India. The people of both the nations are alike in appearance, language, culture, customs, mode of thinking, and even in ethics of religion even though the religion of the majority community is different. Both the religion believe in the welfare of the common people- to help the poor in distress, to help the victim in danger and to do prayer to Al-mighty almost everyday for the good of mankind.
[Change for betterment]:
The history of Kashmir reveals that Kashmir was once a Hindu majority State and in later period slowly it transformed into a Muslim majority State. Kashmir was a princely state. After Independence of India and Pakistan, Kashmir became a territory of dispute. The dispute has led both the nations to war at more than once. Now time has come to settle the dispute for ever. Occupation of Kashmir by force is nothing but to welcome the bitterness. A country big or small is impossible to acquire by force in the 21st century. But nothing is impossible for the people provided the feelings of brotherhood, neighborhood, and keenness of oneness are developed. The best way is now resting on the path of economic progress.
[The views of Political Leaders]:
Prime Minister of Pakistan Yusuf Raze Gilani declared publicly that he sought an end to the “long legacy of hostility and distrust” between India and Pakistan so that the two countries could work towards the peaceful resolution of Kashmir issue.
Again Prime Minister of India Dr Monmohan Singh declared publicly on 24th May that India can not realize its full development potential without having the best possible relation with its neighbors including Pakistan. Dr Singh added that there was trust deficit between the two countries. He said “India was willing to discuss all outstanding issues with Pakistan as long as Islamabad refrained from letting its territory being used for anti-India activities”.
Both the leaders are correct in their views diplomatically. Yusuf Gilani can not earn the popularity of the people of Pakistan without claiming the right over Kashmir. On the other hand Dr Singh can not satisfy the parliament as well as the people of India without raising the right to claim over Azad Kashmir, the area under the occupation of Pakistan. Thus any talk with Kashmir can not be fruitful. Then what is the solution? The solution lies somewhere else.
[Bangladesh]
It was once a territory of Pakistan known as East Pakistan. Pakistan could not keep the area under its control because of mistaken administration. West Pakistan did not give importance to the economy of the East Pakistan instead of religion. Even the West tried to impose the language of the west over the people of East Pakistan. It is proved beyond doubt that nothing can bring peace and tranquility without economic solvency. Nothing is more important than the food before a hungry person.
[Economy of the country]:
There was a time when powerful nations fought for territory and territorial expansion in the South East Asia regions. British occupied India, French occupied Port Louise, Spain occupied Manila of Philippines, Portuguese occupied Goa, and Japan expanded its Empire to the south of China. But in the course time, the desire for additional territory is minimized but even then the residents of all these countries were sustaining a better life. It was possible because of the economic uplifting in trade, industries and exports in these countries. Now a new opportunity had arisen due to an economic growth particularly in India besides China. Dr Singh has rightly said the neighboring countries of India should utilize this opportunity for the betterment of their economy when India could realize the value of its development. The economic growth is bound to change a mental set up as had happened in the different countries of Europe where transportation became so easy by the abolition of restrictions of boundary for vehicles and visa permit in many cases. The countries are united by the common currency Euro. Such a change in South East Asian Countries including Pakistan is not unlikely.
[Economic Growth of India]:
There was spectacular economic growth in India with an average growth of 7-8% GDP. It has emerged as the global leader in software and business process outsourcing making revenues of US$12.5 billion in the year of 2004. The revenue on export sector has increased from $8 billion in 2003 to $46 billion in 2007. Its foreign exchange reserves are increasing year after year. By the time it has exceeded US$102 billion. Its foreign exchange reserves has exceeded to that of USA, France, Russia and Germany. The economic experts believe that India and China is going to rule the world in the 21st century.
Conclusion:
Under the present atmosphere the talk on Kashmir will not bring any fruitful result. India will insist for some actions over the leaders of Mumbai carnage and a fresh assurance from the government of Pakistan that Pakistan’s territory will not be used for terror strike. On the other hand Pakistan will go on; the first priority of peace talk is the dispute of Kashmir. Final result appears to be zero. The best way would be to exchange mutual views to enhance good relations keeping the point of dispute of Kashmir or Mumbai apart. The two neighbors must move forward for the sake of peace and stability in the region, to root out terrorism. There is now a dire and immediate need to change old mindsets and give way to a new and progressive thought. Both Pakistan and India need to avoid shortsighted policies for political short-term gains, which have resulted in poisoning their relations in the past and the present. Now it is time to turn their attention towards the gigantic task of eradicating poverty and raising the standard of living of the vast mass of their peoples living below the poverty line. Both the countries must utilize the Indian fastest growth economy for the good of social status of the people of the region.
Pakistan has to realize that Indian government has no power to alter anything of Kashmir without the consent of the people of India. Similarly India has to realize that Pakistan government can not do anything against the leaders of terrorists without the support of the majority mass people of Pakistan. Pakistan Government knows its deficiency when the world body is saying that Pakistan is the epic-center of terrorist. Knowing the terrorist activity of Pakistan, US are not going away from Pakistan or against Pakistan rather United State is sharing the difficulties with Pakistan. India also should share the difficulties of Pakistan in the process of tackling the terrorists in Pakistan soil. A mutual understanding is bound to increase the neighborly relations- the ultimate of which will nullify the terrorist activity and bring a permanent peace in Kashmir as well.
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Hi Outdoorsguy,
Let your optimistic view get right way. Thanks.
Excellent topic to discuss on.Though apparently Kashmir and terrorist activities seems synonymous,yet I hope and expect that soon there will be shift of mind-set to all the south Asian leaders to make our south-asia a better part of the world. Certainly, I have a greater expectation from from young upcoming leaders.thanks
Hi andramida,
Thanks for reading my articles and sharing my views.
HP this, like so many problems around the world, will not be easy to resolve. It reminds me of the troubles in Ireland in some ways
Hi ethel smith,
Thanks for comment.
A good article Roychouduriji! Over all your theme is "best way is economic progress in the region and mutual understanding of people." But some other points you mention puzzle me.
First of all one has to accept what is the main problem. I consider that to be Pakistan is being ruled by basically army top and feudal lords and this ruling class is quite insecure about its rule. Hence it is using raising sentiments about "Muslim religion", "Kashmir problem", "crush India", "America is our enemy number one" etc. as a tool to keep themselves in some kind of perpetual rule and to play a power game in world politics (a famous satirical quote by a Pakistani author is "Kashmir is with India, it is only the issue of Kashmir which is with us!" Good writers, analyzers, general public in Pakistan understand very well where the problem lies).
There are many interesting articles by Pakistani writers analyzing exactly what is the problem in their country Many such references I have given in some of articles I wrote on this topic. There seems to be very little support from masses about these slogans.
Masses are more worried about daily "dal roti" (food and shelter etc.). A sentiment you expressed in the beginning of your article. It is the army top and feudal rulers who have to change the mentality and not masses. Hence I am puzzled about your conclusion "Similarly India has to realize that Pakistan government can not do anything against the leaders of terrorists without the support of the majority mass people of Pakistan".
To me opposite looks to be true. One of famous conclusion of Gandhi is quite relevant, when you think of solutions via this ruling class in Pakistan. "A person who is sleeping can perhaps be woken up. but one who has closed eyes and pretending to sleep, I do not know what you can do about it".
Perhaps you are taken by theme followed by current Western press media and politicians. They are singing songs of difficulties of Pakistani ruling class and terrorists as their strategic assets or solution to Kashmir problem will solve all issues etc. But just now they are talking in this tone mainly because they do not find any proper path except to praise this army top and feudal structure in Pakistan and finance arm it. That seems to be their main strategy time being to get them out of problems they face from their army being involved in this region.
I am not so sure India should follow their path and have the same strategy. Congress government seems to be going towards this. But I feel it will be a bit of disaster for us and most likely for them also.
While we should be firm about no compromise with terrorism and no count of terrorism as strategic assets, our focus should be on trying to improve our own economy make our country take a path to minimal life style for every one as well as help Pakistan and other neighboring countries improve their economy by building up infra structure there. It is this aspect for which we should create support in our country.
Our experience in Afghanistan shows that building roads, hospitals or bridges or electricity generating etc. create many more friends than discussing useless aspects with feudal or army rulers or with Western countries. These are the things we our selves and Pakistan and other countries need, not useless discussions with their ruling class on solving non issues like Kashmir etc.
Hi Soumyaranjan,
I respect your sentiment. Pakistan was ruled by Army right from the beginning. People have less voice. Pakistan tried his best to occupy Kashmir by force and now trying to do something by terror activity. You are also right in your assessment how US is playing his part for the benefit of US. But amidst all who suffered most? It is the people of the region. No body can change the mindset of Army because when Army is in command of administration, the life of Army is better off in all respect. Economic uplifting might have change the mindset of common people. In the history -Army or Feudal King can not rule over mass people for long. People are the ultimate Ruler of the country.
An excellent article, my friend. I have long wondered about Kashmir. Cannot it become an independent state, belong to neither India nor Pakistan? Or cannot the citizens of Kashmir vote by referendum which country this wish to belong to?
This is for James
I think you may not have thought about the problem otherwise I am sure you would not have considered this option. Just try to think about this. In a few years from now several American cities may have majority population of Spanish speaking. It may even happen in NY, San Fransisco or LA. Who knows some cities in USA may have even Chinese speaking majority or Muslims in majority. Some smaller cities or Villages already may have this situation.
Suppose now in some of these cities there is demand from people in such cities or regions that let us have referendum, we want these areas to form a separate country or China or Mexico or Turkey or Pakistan demands that these regions have majority of them from our race or religion and they should be given right to have Independence -- are you ready for it?
Don't you feel that such possibilities do exist in USA. In many ways, in USA developments today are similar to what happened in India 100's of years back with these 100's of years of migration and amalgamation religions generation wealth making country attractive for others etc. - see description of India in two paragraphs below
Actually most American and European countries have very cohesive population today. Mainly one language or one religion people. Hence government media and press there floats such solutions for places different from theirs without much thinking.
In India there are more than 40 languages spoken, almost all religions you can think of are being practiced by millions (Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Jain Sikh etc.), color of people varies from very light color to very dark (with color of eyes from blue brown or black), body structure from vary oriental like Chinese or Japanese to Aryan-European features to very African like features or Arabic type faces. It depends on which part of India you are. In cities all over India you will see all these varieties practically every where. In many families one sibling may have very fair color and the other very dark color, One may be a Sikh other may be a Hindu.
The solution you are suggesting may make practically every square mile in India into a country and not just in India even in USA very soon you might hear similar demands, if it starts some where. Just to give you an idea, the number of Muslims in India is practically as large as that in countries like Pakistan. India is one of the largest Muslim country (still this number is about 11 percent of India's total population).
If some solution based on religious identity is imposed, it is going to bring insecurity in the whole country not just to these Muslims but to every one. It may affect actually far off countries like USA etc.
Finally one more important point violence in Kashmir is not because of people of Kashmir or India or Pakistan, it is mainly because of army top and feudal rulers in Pakistan who are using terrorist groups to create such demands in the region to keep them in Power.
I feel problem will not go by giving in to demands of such crooked people as bribe to them or bribing them with money and arms as USA administratio9n is engaged in doing. Solution lies in improving economic conditions in India and these countries creating a business atmosphere.
Well, you have explained the situation well. I suppose I must retract my statement. Thank you for your patience.
James Watkins & Sumyasrajan – Both of you should take my heartiest love as you both have taken interest in my Article to have a meaning exchange of views to get the understanding of the dispute of Kashmir. I prefer to add a little- if I am not mistaken I thing the percentage of Muslim population in India is not 11% but not less than 14%. It is also true that all Muslims of India did not wanted a separate homeland i.e. Pakistan. Many preferred a United Indian Union. It was the greatness of Indian Leaders that Indian Union was declared a place for all irrespective of religion caste or community even after the formation of Pakistan, an Islamic Religious state mainly for Muslims only. Now the Muslims of India before partition and even after partition are the part and parcel of India. They have made India proud without migrating to Pakistan.
Thanks a lot Roychoudhuriji! I quite agree with you. I did not check figures recently, you must be right, my information must be old. It is not just greatness of our leaders at that time, it is also result of 100's of years of inbuilt culture of "sarva dharma saman bhava" in our country(implying every body irrespective of religion style is welcome here in India). Almost all who live in India also by and large follow this style.
I have always thought it so tragic that a place as beautiful as Kashmir should be the cause of so much distrust and hatred and violence. From my perspective it is difficult to see a solution but I would hope that the two countries involved could find a way to peace, and perhaps the recent statements are indications that this might be happening. Let's hope that the people of Kashmir will soon be able to live in peace and harmony, with respect for each other's religions.
Love and peace
Tony
Hi Tonymac04,
Thanks for your comment and expectation of a sense of peace in the region for the beauty of the place. It is one of the problems between the two countries of the Mother India lingering since sixty years with religious sentiments of middle age.
I'm learning a lot about that part of the world from your excellent hubs!
Thanks for reading my Articles with interest to know the problems of the region.
but the politicians in India will never support to solve Kashmir issue .
Hi LensMan999,
I am sorry to say your comment “but the politicians in India will never support to solve Kashmir issue” is not correctly true. It is not India or Pakistan but both should take equal interest to solve the problem. Rather it is Pakistan who is eager to capture the territory by force – attempted three times equipped with US weapons but failed and attempted to destroy the secular vision of democratic India by its sectarian religious vision.
Majority of People in Kashmir prefer Pakistan ... expect Kashmiri Pundits
Hi LMan999,
Hello Sir,
You are mistaken again. Kashmir is not only Srinagar, where Muslims are in majority by compelling the Kashmiri Panduit to flee and converting the Kashmiri Panduit into Islam at an earlier stage. It has two other regions, Jammu, a Hindu Majority area and Ladhak, a Buddishit majority area. Besides these the Maharaja (King) of Kashmir assented to Indian Union as per Independence declaration of British by dint of which Kashmir is an inseparable part of Indian Union. If any part of this Union is getting separated, India will face the consequences of Divided Russia. Under this condition the parting of Kashmir can not be a solution which will disintegrate the great India Union into pieces.
This is an intersting topic,i hope its not too late if i add some points here..firstly kashmir is muslim majority state its true but muslims constitute 60% of population..Kashmir valley is the region with anti-india stance but its not even 15% of whole kashmir in indian administration..
Outside the kashmir valley,people are very pro-indian.kashmir valley muslims create fake videos and exaggerated pictures to flame sentiments.
secondly the reason for not holding a plebiscite.The population of kashmir is no longer the way it was in 1949 when plebiscite was promised..half million hindu refugees from kashmir fled the region after religious fanatics started killing non-muslims there..
The reason people of india find kashmir important can also be that one of the most sacred places of hindu worship,the amarnath caves and vaishnodevi temple are located in kashmir..Pilgrims going there are frequently attaxked and killed by islamist militants.
lastly the reason for militarisation-After 1989,thousands of pakistani and afghan militants came into kashmir to wage a religious war on infedels.The military over the years has been successfull in bringing the number down considerably but still fears are there that if military is removed,insurgency will restart.
thank you for reading..Feel free to comment if you disagree
You are right in all fronts. But Kashmir is a part of India. Their citizens are the brothers and sisters of India. It is the duty of the elder brothers to bring the younger brothers to the path of Indian life. The greatness lies in the act of togetherness and there lies the real peace and prosperity.
Nice Hub!
the only thing I want to mention here is that both the countries Pakistan and India must leave it to the Kashmiri people to decide for themselves. A referendum should be held in both parts of the Kashmir (Pak controlled & the Indian controlled). UN can monitor this process for assuring transparency and after the process has been completed, UN peace keeping security forces can control the area for a specific timeframe. This will be the assurance for the world that the land is not being used for any wrong purposes.
Rahul-Patil made a statement that the anti-india people in disputed kashmir are less in percent, if that is so then it will be good if the people of Kashmir vote for India once for all in a fair & free referendum.
There are comments on this hub in which people are talking about the conditions of Pakistan, which has nothing to do with the Kashmiri people. Kashmiris have their rights to decide and no country (Pakistan, India or any other) can impose their own decision on them. Countries should think above their own national and personal interests.
Valeed, My dear friend, you are correct on your apparent analysis. But think of in larger perspective. It is true the well beings of a particular area depend upon the will of the people. It is a tragedy of the history that India was divided and Pakistan was formed as a religious state. But the remaining India did not turned into a religious Hindu State. The foresightedness of the then political leaders was to make India a living place of all people of all religion irrespective of particular religion. After the accession of Kashmir, the land of Kashmir became a part of Indian Union. The decision of anything of Indian Union including Kashmir is not possible without the consent of the people of Indian Union as because India is a democratic country. India is a vast country consisting of different region of different language, religion and cast and community. At present Kashmir valley except Jammu and Ladak is Muslim majority (Historically a Hindu majority, a land of Kashmiri Pandit) is influenced by the sentiments of religion because of the existence of a nearby religious state Pakistan. The majority will vote on the basis of religious sentiment, how can you accept it as a vote for free and fair election. Moreover if this is allowed, the same sentiment might rise out in other regions of India, may be on language basis on South or religion basis in the North East. If so how the Indian Union will survive. Separation of Kashmir is possible only when the Indian Union will be destroyed. Under this circumstances solution not lies in confrontation or election. The solution lies with the people. If the good neighborly feeling return, the border will be null and void as you find in the States of Europe or England and French where once they were enemy to each other. I feel sorry for expressing my personal views in length as because my heart goes for the people of India and Pakistan.
HMMM... to some extent I can understand what do you mean and what is the problem you are reffering too. And I do agree with your solution, which is the free movement between the two countries like the states of Europe. Kashmir can be conrolled by the joint forces for India and Pakistan that can be done to satisfy both sides. We both know that Kashmir is the life line for both countries as the rivers of both countries are comming from the glaciers of kashmir. We should find a mid way out to over come this problem, on some issues countries have to compromise to some extent.
Just like a perfect marriage husband and wife are required to make compromises on various issues, otherwise they will have to face the consequences.
I am a proud Pakistani but I love India just like my own country. I hate it when indian media creates a feeling of hatred amoung the both countries. We all have problems and we will have to find a solution for them together.
It brings tears in my eyes when I see the youth of both countries abusing each other on various forums. It's very painful to see when they disrespect the religion in the process. I do believe that youth can be easily manipulated by the media so I hold the media responsible for it.
Valeed,
I am happy to see that you responded again. It is true we, the citizens of the two countries are the victims. But it is our political leaders who will determine our destiny. Anyway my good wishes always with you and will remain so. Let the blessings of God/Allah/Brahma be fall upon you.
Have recently started reading articles and books on Kashmir.
while most of them talk about India & Pakistan, most are silent on the issue of China.
Really find it difficult to understand this.
Meanwhile have formed an opinion that the only and long standing solution would be the determination of the Kashmiri's to instill Kahmiriat and then take forward a consensus on the issue.
Once a consensus is arrived at then the future path can be set and achieved.
Hi rainvr,
Thank you for reading my article and giving valuable comment.
I wil b very hapy if u read my 2nd hub . . . . It prety much shws our perspective on things . . . . N i hope dat . .um . .it wud help u undrstand us bettr n hopefuly clear any misundrstandings . .if any . . .
Thnk u . . .
I have read the article as well as the comments.I don't think any Kashmiri has commented.my solution is also based on economy.Kashmir should be a independent free economic zone with gauranteed by all the three countries in the vicinity that is china,Pakistan and India.this could be limited to the valley with option to Jammu and Ladakh as well as the other part of Kashmir which is with Pakistan be given the same option to join it after a period of 5years.all the three countries should have a joint and consensual say only in foriegn affairs of this free economic zone to allay the fears that this new entity will not be used by any country against the three .this is the only solution and will act as a buffer between all the three and all of them will focus on economic development and elimination of poverty.
Hi Serleon,
I have read your article. You are right in your thought and observation.We are the victims both the people of Pakistan as well as the people of India. We were one country but we become two. This is our destiny. Our leaders gave us hope for better life and prosperity. But where is our prosperity even after 60 years of independence. It is time for us to forget the past. Let us live with love and brotherhood. America can give us money and arsenals but not love and brotherhood.
Hi Mobysaha,
I appreciate your comment that for economic prosperity of Kashmir for the cooperation of all. But I do not find any reason to include China in the affairs of Kashmir. Kashmir was ruled by a King under British Kingdom. When the British left the King of Kashmir joined the Indian
Union. But Kashmir Valley was predominantly a Muslim majority State. So the dispute arises even after annexation. However it was a dispute between India and Pakistan. How China can come into the picture. However my personal view lies in the formation of confederation so that India, Pakistan and Kashmir can live together with safety and security.
I have always failed to undestand the issue of Kashmir. I have come to believe that the entire issue of kashmir is nothing but a problem that we Indians created for ourselves. some 60 years ago when India and Pakistan seperated, a lot many princely states and territories were absorbed in both countries. The example of the state of Hyderabad is well known. So what has caused Kashmir to be such a complicated issue. The problem is that kashmir was given a special; constitutional status, thereby seperating the entire geographical area from the success story of India as a whole. all states saw the fruits of developement, save for this one state of the dominion of the republic of India. We curtailed the developement of the region by not allowing equal constitutional dstatus to kashmir at par with the other states. What has culminated in to is a state that still reels under the question of autonomy, which in a republic India is a absolute impossibility, and the question whether Kashmir in a territory of Pakistan or India, a question which finds no answer in its decades of wars, conflicts and diplomacy.
The question to me is not that even if Kashmir is a predominantly Muslim poppulation after all the Kashmiri Butts were driven away or whether there should be a plebicit to decide the fate of the state, but whether Kashmir as a state can survive on its own. What we need today is a equal constitutional status for kashmir which will invite economic deelopement in Kahmir from all sectors of business. Nothing more is required to be done.
As an ardent believer of democracy, I have come to believe that true democracy is the right remedy for this isuue of Kashmir. a remedy that has not been administered for the past 60 years, thereby worsening the simplest of the problems and creating an ailment that has effected this country for too long.
Hi hatyogi,
Your logic is quite right. If a thing is not done in right time, it becomes difficult do later on. For some reasons or other it is not done, now in a democracy it must be done with the consents of the people. That is why we require a solution with opinion of all. A solution should not hurt anybody.
H P Roychoudhury
I partially agree with you, in he sense that today whatever would have to be done, would be done by the consent of the people. But unfortunately there is another side to this coin, there always is. The issue here is that, today, a democracy lie India or in that sense anycountry in this world is not ready in any scenario whatsoever to lose any part of its soverign teritory. In Indias case Kashmir. We have declared that it is our integral part, and now we can not go back. Well As it is said a few decades are negligible in the history of a nation. India has been fighting over this issue for half a century, and we are ready to stand firm for another say 200 years if required. Well coming back to my point of arguement. As I siad a few years are lost indeed, but we can mend our wrongs even today. It is better late than never. What Kashmir needs today is the taste of the elixer called democracy. Give the people what they have not ot the chance to experience for long. What has happened in Kashmir is peace, justice, equality, and a sense of constitutionality, thats democracy, true democracy. Give them democracy and see the difference.
Unfortunately the severe deficiency of political will and acute shortsightedness of our politicians have caused a helth issue for the motherland. What has agravated the issue is the long neglect. What say you?
Hi hatyogi,
I agree with you as you said “The issue here is that, today, a democracy lie India or in that sense any country in this world is not ready in any scenario whatsoever to lose any part of its sovereign territory. In Indias case Kashmir. We have declared that it is our integral part, and now we can not go back.” During the declaration of Independence -India was divided into Pakistan and India. Pakistan Declared an Islamic State, where all people can leave whereas India declared a secular state (not a Hindu state) where all people can live with equal right. It makes one country but different law. Muslims are at liberty to culture Muslim law. A Muslim can carry 5 wives and a Hindu is only one. Population of Muslim will increase, and not the Hindus. It is not done in right time.One country, one law. Government is afraid to do it now. Govt will not survive because many will vote against. If things are not done in right time, it is difficult to do later on. Kashmir is also the same. Who is responsible, you thing yourself.
We have been commiting the same mitakes time and over. What you are talking about has been the core reason to gat the uniform civil code that was to be implemented in india. We became a secu;lar democracy but in the real sense we never implemented uniform laws for all the citizens. We have different laws for different religions. For example laws related to marriage, distribution of property and marriage/divorce all differ subject to the religion f an individual. This has certainly created a sort of disparity in the rights of an individual. as a democracy in its infancy the first law makers found this seperate laws as the easiest way out of the mess that the new birth of this democracy left behind. But the easiest is not always the best. Today even after 0 years there is no political will to get things right. We still have no uniform civil code. We still are more of Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Shiks, Parsis, Jains and Budhists and less of Just Indians.
Sme is with the question of Kshmir. We are yet to acknowledge that India has lost a substantial part of Kashmir to Pakistan, We will fail to take steps of implementing peace if we fail yet again to correct the wrongs done for the past 60 years. Yes it was our mistake to make Kashmir a state with special constitutional status. What has resulted is a stste with ethenic disparity and underdevelopement. This has to change before it is too late.
How do u say kashmir belongs to pak.pakistan came oly in 1948.india is d oldest country in d world so kashmir rightfully belongs to India n non else.bloody pakis
How do u say kashmir belongs to pak.pakistan came oly in 1948.india is d oldest country in d world so kashmir rightfully belongs to India n non else.bloody pakis
i read article and views of peoples in which the problem of Kashmir shown beautifully that it is problem of Pakistani army. Actually,it is problem of wrong thinking of Indian that they are larger country. So that they have right to occupy Kashmir, Siachin etc of Pakistan. India has problem with all his neighbors china, Pakistan, srilanka, Bangladesh etc. Indian always try to occupy the land of other countries. What happening in Kashmir everyday Kashmirs were killed by Indian army.In India around about 7 to 8 states peoples want freedom. But nobody speaks America, UK all powers because India is big market. In India what happens with minorities in past everybody knows. They did what with Christians, Sikhs, Muslims every with low category Hindus.India occupy Kashmir by force. If occupation of Kashmir is right that there was Hindu prince than why India occupy Hyderabad Dhakan state where Muslim king ruling.For Hyderabad Dhakan Indian says majority Hindu. How much any body lie the lie remains lie.It is history always the peoples who want freedom at end they get. Pakistan has no problem even if Kashmirs want independent Kashmir. Because we want our Kashmirs brothers live in peace.
Thanks for your comment KASHMIR 5088. India is our neighbour country but Indian people r spreading lie for Pakistan & Kashmir in international level. Pakistan never try to occupy kashmir. Kashmir is an integral part of Pakistan and the proof is our 'Azad Kashmir' which means "Free Kashmir". Only India is Occupier of Kashmir. there Kashmir is Known 'IOK (Indian Occupied Kashmir)'.
Thanks and Salam!
Hi Stargate,
Thanks for reading and giving attention to my article. I appreciate your comment as it seems your love for the country. But my dear friend greatness of a person lies if he could love others and other country. Azad Kashmir or IOK are nothing but the name but people is the supreme and people should be loved.
In 1947, Muslims were in a 61 per cent majority in the Jammu province. Horace Alexander wrote in the Spectator (January 16, 1948) that the killings had “the tacit consent of State authority” and put the figure at 200,000. On August 10, 1948, The Times (London) published a report by “A Special Correspondent”, an Indian Civil Service official who had served in the State. He wrote: “2,37,000 Muslims were systematically exterminated – unless they escaped to Pakistan along the border – by all the forces of the Dogra State, headed by the Maharaja in person and aided by Hindus and Sikhs. This happened in October 1947, five days before the first Pathan invasion and nine days before the Maharaja’s accession to India.” India was, therefore, not responsible one bit. Hari Singh was, personally. Between 1941 and 1961, the Muslim population of Jammu fell from 61 per cent to 38 per cent. Sheikh Abdullah wrote: “There was enacted in every village and town through which he [Hari Singh] passed an orgy of arson and loot and murder of Muslims. In Jammu the killing of Muslims all over the province continued unabated for weeks under his very nose. In an article entitled “Being Muslim in Jammu”, Zafar Chaudhary writes: “There was hardly any family in the region which escaped” it. Those “events permanently changed the way the Muslims of Jammu would live or think” (Economic & Political Weekly; August 23, 2008). Some decided to make peace with the BJP agitators. The BJP’s State president, Ashok Khajuria, said at a press conference on July 26: “Muslims vacate your houses... I am warning you… else, Jammu people are ready to throw you out.” On November 5 and 6, 1947, more than 100 lories, loaded with women, children and old men were taken into the wilderness of Kuthua forests. Hindu extremists and armed gangs were let loose on these innocent people and an unparallel butchery was perpetrated, killing thousands of them. Women were raped, molested and their valuables looted. All these bloodsheds were taking place in full view of the Indian army, which had by that time occupied a major part of the state. In another act of butchery, a large gathering of 25000 Muslims, in Miran Sahib and Ranbir Singhpora, were machine-gunned. During migration to Pakistan in 1947, nearly 300,000 people were massacred in cold British daily "the London Times" wrote on October 10, 1947 in a report from its special correspondent in India that the Maharaja, under his own supervision, got assassinated 237,000 Muslims, using military forces in Jammu area. The editor of "Statesman" Ian Stephen, in his book "Horned Moon" wrote that till the end of autumn 1947, more than 200,000 Muslims were assassinated.
The 1947 carnage left several Muslim majority populated villages in Jammu district alone totally Hindu or Sikh populated. In Jammu district alone, which is a part of the larger Jammu province, Muslims numbered 158,630 and comprised 37 per cent of the total population of 428,719 in the year 1941. In the year 1961, Muslims numbered only 51,693 and comprised only 10 per cent of the total population of 516,932. The decrease in the number of Muslims in Jammu district alone was over 100,000. That there was a design to change the demographics is demonstrated by another incident. Prime Minister of Jammu and Kashmir, Mehr Chand Mahajan told a delegation of Hindus who met him in the palace when he arrived in Jammu that now when the power was being transferred to the people they should better demand parity. When one of them associated with the National Conference asked how they could demand parity when there was so much difference in population ratio. Pointing to the Ramnagar natural reserve below, where some bodies of Muslims were still lying, he said, "the population ratio too can change."
According to official records of the United Nations Security Council, Meeting No. 534, March 6, 1951: "Shortly after the terrible slaughters in India, which accompanied Partition, the Maharaja set upon a course of action whereby, in the words of the special correspondent of The Times of London published in its issue of 10 October 1948, "in the remaining Dogra area, 237,000 Muslims were systematically exterminated, unless they escaped to Pakistan along the border, by all the forces of the Dogra State headed by the Maharaja in person and aided by Hindus and Sikhs"."
Hi Mir Zubair,
I appreciate your knowledge of history. But here in India the papers said a different story. There are thousands of Kashmiri Brahmins fled away too different states of India even when Kashmir is under Indian Union and still they could not return to their homes. If Hindus & Sikhs are in superior command how these helpless Brahmins get compelled to leave their home and hearths. I personally never think anything in terms Hindus & Muslims. To me all are brothers and sisters of the same region. Separation of Muslims creating Pakistan is just a partition between families. AS the brotherly affinity never vanishes between two brothers of a family even after partition, the formation of Pakistan attached with a dispute over Kashmir too can not and should not like wise tarnish the brotherly affinity. We are same, same kind of life style, and same sort of way of thinking. Why do we would look bitterly? Forget the past and think afresh for a new bond of love in this fast 21st century.
Hi H P Roychoudhury,
Iam not a writer, author, diplomat,or a politician,i cant play with words as u people on the hub are doing, As a kashmari living in the heart of srinagar we the people here can be the right judge as supposingly,It is our land for God sake let us decide,
India says integral part, Pakistan says 'jugular vein.
[WE SAY FREEDOM FROM BOTH OF YOU]
You both India & Pakistan are playing with the aspirations, of kashmari people,
OUR GENERATIONS ARE SUFFERING PAST 65 YEARS WE RECEIVE BULLETS WHEN WE CALL FOR FREEDOM,WHY ARE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ON ROADS SHOUTING FREEDOM SURELY WORLD KNOWS.Every budy knows that old saying for the sake of a nail a shoe was lost, for the sake of a shoe a horse was lost, for the sake of a horse the battle was lost" In this case both nations will loose,
A ROAD OUT OF HELL WILL LEAD TO AN EVERLASTING PEACE,
EVERY NATIONHAS ITS DESTINY FOR US THERE IS DOOM WITH EVERY POWER CLOSING ON ROPES AROUND OUR NECK AND ARE GETTING TIGHTER.
WE ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN DEVIL AND THE DEEP SEA.
HI TO EVERY ONE ,FOR EVERY ONE ON HUB,??????????
The biggest problem responsable for the present scenario of kashmir is the drama of democracy by both involved countries. Hundreds of custodial death/murder cases, rap cases, custodial disapear cases and property damage cases are still waiting for unexpected justice. Daughters were raped infront of parents, sons were killed in the dawn of mothers, students were disapeared from there way to schools and property of poor and weak people was looted in the day light and when these oppressed people came out on roads , they were labelled as tererists. A poor mans daughter was raped and murdered and his mouth was tried to be closed with 50,000/= or one lack rupees and if he denide, he was shot dead in a fack encounter. World brothern is enjoying the scene like a hollywood picture. It is very easy to write or speak about kashmir, but no one can feel the pain .???
Kashmir as a Free Nation
It is only through disciplined mass action that our victory can be assured,
Our march to freedom is irreversible. We must not allow fear to stand in our way
Let us travel together. Let us, by our joint actions, vindicate the purposes for which this Revolution got roots and create a situation where in its Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights will become part of the body of law on which will be based the political and social order of Jammu and Kashmir Our common victory is assured.
We must work for the day when we, as Kashmere, see one another and interact with one another as equal human beings and as part of one nation united, rather than torn asunder, by its diversity. The road we shall have to travel to reach this destination will by no means be easy ?????
The people of kasmir are the people of pakistan in history in blood IN FLESH in GEOGRAPHY in culture in tradition in kith and kin of hearts in every state and in a every form !!!
@ ASIM KHAN
Dear,, we here in kashmir have shifted the mood , as your policies keep changing on kashmir as per pakistans intrests,we just need FREEDOM
WE ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN DEVIL AND THE DEEP SEA.
My Dear Asim Khan,
I am grateful that you read my article. I am not a politician. I am an ordinary people. But my heart goes with the sufferings of Kashmiri people be it for terrorism or for army. As a well wisher I wish to see the people in the Kashmir valley are happy when the tourists will get real charm and will make the valley prosperous in wealth and beauty making Kashmir a unique place in world history. You said something of history. I could not agree with you in all respect. The history records it was a place of Kashmiri Pandits most of them have been converted to Muslim religion time to time. I am not going to that who is Muslim and who is Hindus. The religion changes time to time but the people remain same with same language and with same sense of nature of love and brotherhood. You can not compare the nature of Kashmiri people with the nature of western people but definitely with Indian people. Do you know that the present Paswear and Swat Valley of Pakistan was a center of Hindu religion- Buddhism? The Swath Museum is still full of Buddhist Sculptures. Yes, I respect and honor your demand “we just need FREEDOM”. But Indian people lost Pakistan they don’t want to loss Kashmir. Kashmir in their heart and Kashmiri people in their mind. They don’t want to see India without Kashmir. They are ready to give everything for the people of Kashmir because Kashmir is an inseparable part of India. India can not survive if Kashmir is separated. Every Indian thing for the betterment of every Kashmiri because every Kashmiri is an Indian. They are ready to fight for any demand made by any Indian for the good cause of its citizens.
My Dear H P Roychoudhury
NOT TO SEE INDIA WITH OUT KASHMIR IS INDIAS PROBLEM , AS I SAD WE THE PEOPLE OF KASHMIR DONT WANT TO BE WITH INDIA ANY MORE,DEAR WE JUST WANT FREEDOM ,OUR MARCH TO FREEDOM IS IRREVERSIBLE TOO,,
For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
AND FOR THE SAKE OF KASHMIR UNION OF INDIA CAN LOST
SO DEAR SAVE INDIA AND LEAVE KASHMIR
BEFORE INDIA GETS LOST
Hi Streaming Freedom,
NOT TO SEE INDIA WITH OUT KASHMIR IS INDIAS PROBLEM , AS I SAD WE THE PEOPLE OF KASHMIR DONT WANT TO BE WITH INDIA ANY MORE,DEAR WE JUST WANT FREEDOM ,OUR MARCH TO FREEDOM IS IRREVERSIBLE TOO
W.r.to above - Freedom is a birth right, I agree, but freedom of existence vanishes without mother. India is the mother of all citizens of all states of India and Kashmir is not an exception. People learn from history. It was the Phizo leader of Nagaland, an insurgent leader declared independence for NagaLand. Did they achieve it? Lal Danga declared Independence for Mizo Ram. Did he achieve it? After a long term jail Mizo leader had come to term with the government of India and Mizo Ram is now peaceful and a most upcoming state of India. You have seen Khalistan Movement, where the worrier Punjabis had to surrender to the force of Indian Army. All these were happened in the early stage of India. Do you know to-day’s India is completely different? There is no force on Earth who can claim to defeat India. Yes, you will get freedom, freedom of administration, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of language. But don’t tell freedom of separation. If you separate a hand from a human body, the body will die. Similarly if you say separate Kashmir, India will die. No body wants to die without fight. Don’t under estimate the present India. You may not fight for India but every Indians will fight to the last for inch of land of India including Kashmir. A young mind many time things many absurd, take time, and think for better future.
H P Roychoudhury
Dear Sir ,I respect you,as you can play magic with words,
Do you know to-day’s India is completely different? There is no force on Earth who can claim to defeat India. Yes, you will get freedom, freedom of administration, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of language. But don’t tell freedom of separation.
W.r.to above
As a muslim by faith we dnt get frighten by the mights of the world{you live once and die once}for us the Almighty ALLAH is the super power.Big nations were bult and destroyed, India must be a super power,
Dear sir you are underestimating time { times do change in frictions it changed for that Great Britain, Russians etc,s can and will surely change for INDIANS ]
"Do you not think it impolitic to forgive a government which has been guilty of a thousands of murders?
"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves ...
Dear Sir
I want you to read this story, Its my story,my name is[Streaming Freedom ] and the story goes like this ,,,,,,,
How I became a Stone-Pelter... I am from downtown Srinagar born in 1986. I was admitted to one of the best school of valley. As a child I had dream to become engineer. Whenever somebody used to ask me about my aim I would proudly say engineer. As I started to grow up I started to become familiar with many words which everyone used to talk about that among them few were “azadi” (freedom), “hartal” (shutdown) but I was unable to understand the meaning of these words. I loved the word hartal as it was holiday, so I always wished for hartal. As I grew up I came to know about mujahids. I used to listen to the stories of mujahids. I would often ask my elders to tell me about mujahids. They told me stories of many mujahids like Isaaqh, Ishfaq, and Jan Malik which I liked to share with my friends. ? Even I was named after a Shaheed Mujahid (martyr fighter) who was killed before few weeks I was born. Then Came the summer of 2007, I was passing by Nowhatta, It was month of Muharram. There was heavy stone pelting going on. I found it very interesting. I saw youth pelting stones and shouting freedom slogans. Initially I was afraid to go in front and pelt stones on Police and CRPF. I used to think they are some angels fighting on the front. Days passed. Now I too had gathered guts to pelt stones on the front line. It was now 2008 I was busy with my exams. I heard about Amarnath Land Row. Things started changing very fast I had never seen kind of hartals (shutdowns) before. I had never seen kind of stone pelting before. It was totally new experience to me. Now tear gas shell wasn’t shot anymore, now bullets were fired directly. I saw many boys hit by a bullet and dying on spot. I was disturbed by this. I asked my grandfather once why they directly shoot on us. His answer was “Tse chuk mangaan azadi” (u are asking for freedom). This answer changed my mind. I started realizing neither we are part of India nor India considers us their part. Now I started reading history about our freedom struggle. I came to know about many things about the Kashmir struggle. Now I started reading newspaper, magazines very keenly. I started observing everything about the political system. I wept when I read about Gawkadal, Zukura, Hawal, Bijbihara, Sopore, Kupwara massacres. I too wanted to became Mujahid. I once joked with my mother that I will become Mujahid, her answer was pain full, first give me poison then you will become Mujahid. Came 2009 I again started to remain busy with my studies but whenever there was stone pelting in Nowahatta I used go there and pelt stones. Stone pelting for me now, has become a reaction to the atrocities and d illegal occupation of India. I do it for a cause. I was once caught by police and was put in custody I was also beaten but that also couldn’t break me. When I was released I again started pelting stones. A policemen in custody told me why you pelt stones, do you think you will get freedom by pelting stones. If it is the case I am also ready to pelt stones, he said. But still it is the only thing which makes me feel that gun or bullet cannot suppress my thoughts my sentiments and to live in occupied I want to be free….. I am happy when I pelt stones because I want to take revenge for every innocent killing. I know my stone wont harm them but remember it is not stone it is my feelings. I pelt stones because we are oppressed. It was June 2009 Shopian rape had occurred. It was unbearable to hear rape and murder case of a girl and her sister in law. Tears rolled from my eyes when I read story of Asiya in newspaper. Once again hartals, stone pelting emerged with more boys felling to bullets to a response for protesting for justice from brutal Indian military. I watched a press conference of Omar Abdullah on news channel promising to bring culprits in front of people and punish them in 24 hors. Honestly I was happy with his promise I saw a hope in him in bringing justice to the duo. But nothing happened instead of justice their relatives were beaten. This made me more aggressive I wanted to take revenge, I wanted to punish murderers. More ever I considered cm for all this because his behaviour made me much aggressive much angry against India and their brutality here. After one month of continuous strikes life was back on track. Again we started to remain busy with our studies. But I always used to think why didn’t the duo got justice I once had seen news of a 14 year old girl from Delhi who was killed by unknown person in her bedroom. But Police wasn’t able to solve the case. It was then handed over to CBI who arrested the culprits in few weeks. But in case of Kashmir CBI solved the case differently they didn’t arrested the culprits but made a funny story of the victims that they died due to drowning in stream whose depth was hardly unto knees. This clearly showed policy of India in Kashmir. But whom could I ask these questions why didn’t they get justice? Why they shoot us if we protest for seeking justice? These questions always were in my mind. By pelting stones I dint got answer but I was happy I felt I am taking revenge by pelting stones but what else I could do who was their to listen me. I felt satisfaction by pelting stones by pelting stones I wanted to say them give us justice leave our Kashmir let us leave in peace let us live in place where no mother has fear that her son may return dead. These are not stones these are my feelings. Came 2010 it was January once I saw Wamiq Farooq, He was a neighbour of one of my relatives residing at Rainawari area of Srinagar. Wamiq was very good boy he used to offer my times prayers. He used to call me bhai (brother). After few weeks on one Friday evening I heard that a boy has been martyred after hitting by tear gas shell but I didn’t know unfortunately it was Wamiq the same guy whom I had seen before a day. When I woke up next morning I saw a picture of boy whose identity was yet to be revealed in newspaper. After few minutes I got call from my cousin that Wamiq has been martyred. For few minutes I totally froze I wasn’t able to speak. A boy hardly 13 was no more. You can understand how it feels when you hear death of person whom you know. Wamiq was like my little brother I had never thought an innocent young boy will fell prey to their brutality. Once again hartals (strikes) and stone pelting emerged with more boys getting injured and martyred. Indian occupational forces were responding with more brutality, they are occupational forces their cruelty and brutality is not a surprise to us but I was surprised by the role of Jammu and Kashmir police our local police they are playing absurd role. One fails to understand the cause of their cruelty and brutality, Is it they want to show more loyalty to India or they are killing their brothers for money. What ever the reason is but the way they behave with their own countrymen is painful. Maybe they have became blind because of power government has given to them. Wamiq’s death gave birth to a powerful revolution. The revolution shook the existence of Indian rule in Kashmir. Now India started to show their military power to unarmed civilians. The way they deal with protests is answer to those people who call India integral part of Kashmir. India has started to engage its every front to curb this revolution from politically to technically even media is being used to curb this revolution. Streets of Kashmir have become red with the blood of innocent people. Jhelum has become red with blood of innocent people. I know one day may be I will also fell to their bullets even I am mentally prepared for that because I have attained extreme limit of stone pelting. But remember my death will give birth to hundreds of kale kharab (hotheads). As I became kale kharab (hothead) after death of innocent boys from last three years. 65 deaths have already given birth to hundreds of kale kharab (hot head) who are ready to fight till their last breath. These kale kharab (hothead) are present at every corner of Kashmir. What ever will the future of
How I became a Stone-Pelter... I am from downtown Srinagar born in 1986. I was admitted to one of the best school of valley. As a child I had dream to become engineer. Whenever somebody used to ask me about my aim I would proudly say engineer. As I started to grow up I started to become familiar with many words which everyone used to talk about that among them few were “azadi” (freedom), “hartal” (shutdown) but I was unable to understand the meaning of these words. I loved the word hartal as it was holiday, so I always wished for hartal. As I grew up I came to know about mujahids. I used to listen to the stories of mujahids. I would often ask my elders to tell me about mujahids. They told me stories of many mujahids like Isaaqh, Ishfaq, and Jan Malik which I liked to share with my friends. ? Even I was named after a Shaheed Mujahid (martyr fighter) who was killed before few weeks I was born. Then Came the summer of 2007, I was passing by Nowhatta, It was month of Muharram. There was heavy stone pelting going on. I found it very interesting. I saw youth pelting stones and shouting freedom slogans. Initially I was afraid to go in front and pelt stones on Police and CRPF. I used to think they are some angels fighting on the front. Days passed. Now I too had gathered guts to pelt stones on the front line. It was now 2008 I was busy with my exams. I heard about Amarnath Land Row. Things started changing very fast I had never seen kind of hartals (shutdowns) before. I had never seen kind of stone pelting before. It was totally new experience to me. Now tear gas shell wasn’t shot anymore, now bullets were fired directly. I saw many boys hit by a bullet and dying on spot. I was disturbed by this. I asked my grandfather once why they directly shoot on us. His answer was “Tse chuk mangaan azadi” (u are asking for freedom). This answer changed my mind. I started realizing neither we are part of India nor India considers us their part. Now I started reading history about our freedom struggle. I came to know about many things about the Kashmir struggle. Now I started reading newspaper, magazines very keenly. I started observing everything about the political system. I wept when I read about Gawkadal, Zukura, Hawal, Bijbihara, Sopore, Kupwara massacres. I too wanted to became Mujahid. I once joked with my mother that I will become Mujahid, her answer was pain full, first give me poison then you will become Mujahid. Came 2009 I again started to remain busy with my studies but whenever there was stone pelting in Nowahatta I used go there and pelt stones. Stone pelting for me now, has become a reaction to the atrocities and d illegal occupation of India. I do it for a cause. I was once caught by police and was put in custody I was also beaten but that also couldn’t break me. When I was released I again started pelting stones. A policemen in custody told me why you pelt stones, do you think you will get freedom by pelting stones. If it is the case I am also ready to pelt stones, he said. But still it is the only thing which makes me feel that gun or bullet cannot suppress my thoughts my sentiments and to live in occupied I want to be free….. I am happy when I pelt stones because I want to take revenge for every innocent killing. I know my stone wont harm them but remember it is not stone it is my feelings. I pelt stones because we are oppressed. It was June 2009 Shopian rape had occurred. It was unbearable to hear rape and murder case of a girl and her sister in law. Tears rolled from my eyes when I read story of Asiya in newspaper. Once again hartals, stone pelting emerged with more boys felling to bullets to a response for protesting for justice from brutal Indian military. I watched a press conference of Omar Abdullah on news channel promising to bring culprits in front of people and punish them in 24 hors. Honestly I was happy with his promise I saw a hope in him in bringing justice to the duo. But nothing happened instead of justice their relatives were beaten. This made me more aggressive I wanted to take revenge, I wanted to punish murderers. More ever I considered cm for all this because his behaviour made me much aggressive much angry against India and their brutality here. After one month of continuous strikes life was back on track. Again we started to remain busy with our studies. But I always used to think why didn’t the duo got justice I once had seen news of a 14 year old girl from Delhi who was killed by unknown person in her bedroom. But Police wasn’t able to solve the case. It was then handed over to CBI who arrested the culprits in few weeks. But in case of Kashmir CBI solved the case differently they didn’t arrested the culprits but made a funny story of the victims that they died due to drowning in stream whose depth was hardly unto knees. This clearly showed policy of India in Kashmir. But whom could I ask these questions why didn’t they get justice? Why they shoot us if we protest for seeking justice? These questions always were in my mind. By pelting stones I dint got answer but I was happy I felt I am taking revenge by pelting stones but what else I could do who was their to listen me. I felt satisfaction by pelting stones by pelting stones I wanted to say them give us justice leave our Kashmir let us leave in peace let us live in place where no mother has fear that her son may return dead. These are not stones these are my feelings. Came 2010 it was January once I saw Wamiq Farooq, He was a neighbour of one of my relatives residing at Rainawari area of Srinagar. Wamiq was very good boy he used to offer my times prayers. He used to call me bhai (brother). After few weeks on one Friday evening I heard that a boy has been martyred after hitting by tear gas shell but I didn’t know unfortunately it was Wamiq the same guy whom I had seen before a day. When I woke up next morning I saw a picture of boy whose identity was yet to be revealed in newspaper. After few minutes I got call from my cousin that Wamiq has been martyred. For few minutes I totally froze I wasn’t able to speak. A boy hardly 13 was no more. You can understand how it feels when you hear death of person whom you know. Wamiq was like my little brother I had never thought an innocent young boy will fell prey to their brutality. Once again hartals (strikes) and stone pelting emerged with more boys getting injured and martyred. Indian occupational forces were responding with more brutality, they are occupational forces their cruelty and brutality is not a surprise to us but I was surprised by the role of Jammu and Kashmir police our local police they are playing absurd role. One fails to understand the cause of their cruelty and brutality, Is it they want to show more loyalty to India or they are killing their brothers for money. What ever the reason is but the way they behave with their own countrymen is painful. Maybe they have became blind because of power government has given to them. Wamiq’s death gave birth to a powerful revolution. The revolution shook the existence of Indian rule in Kashmir. Now India started to show their military power to unarmed civilians. The way they deal with protests is answer to those people who call India integral part of Kashmir. India has started to engage its every front to curb this revolution from politically to technically even media is being used to curb this revolution. Streets of Kashmir have become red with the blood of innocent people. Jhelum has become red with blood of innocent people. I know one day may be I will also fell to their bullets even I am mentally prepared for that because I have attained extreme limit of stone pelting. But remember my death will give birth to hundreds of kale kharab (hotheads). As I became kale kharab (hothead) after death of innocent boys from last three years. 65 deaths have already given birth to hundreds of kale kharab (hot head) who are ready to fight till their last breath. These kale kharab (hothead) are present at every corner of Kashmir. What ever will the future of present intifada but the struggle to free Kashmir will continue even if takes 100 more years. Next generation will produce m
My Dear STREAMING FREEDOM Brothers,
I have nothing more to say. You are a born patriot and your mother is a sacred lady. What she said "first give me poison then you will become Mujahid"…is perfect which is the inner voice of a mother for her loving child that is a message she has got from the almighty Allaha. Now it is up to you to honor or reject. The vigor with which you began to love Kashmir and brothers and sisters of Kashmir, if you keep this vigor of love alive you could win not only the hearts of every individuals of the rest of India but also the human hearts of the Mankind. My respect goes with your vigor of energy. You are a young boy and I am an old man but elder by more than your father’s age. I have nothing to say anything more but I like to salute you as if you are my grandfather because I have to learn the spirit love from you. God Bless you.
Eh my Kashmir...........!
"I cannot drink water
It is mingled with the blood of young men who have died up in
the mountains.
I cannot look at the sky; It is no longer blue; but painted red.
I cannot listen to the roar of the gushing stream; It reminds me of a wailing mother next to the bullet-
ridden body of her only son.
I cannot listen to the thunder of the clouds It reminds me of a
bomb blast.
I feel the green of my garden has faded Perhaps it too mourns.
I feel the sparrow and cuckoo are silent Perhaps they too are
sad.
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good article.i like the interactions.
Hi SAndeep regan,
Thanks for comment.
this land belongs to the people of kashmir,it is the only right for the people of kashmir what they want.
on the authority of the UN kashmiri people should be given the right to self-determination.why dont u people think about the sufferings of the people of kashmir,how long time the people of kashmir will suffer!do they not have right to live in a peacefull environment,let the people of kashmir decide their fate whether it is hindu,muslim or any other religion,only by giving statements or arguing cant resolve the dispute.65yrs hav passed but the dispute is still pending.innocentpeople are being killed,tortures,arrested.no body thinks about it.For God's sake,ease the sufferings of the people of kashmir,but create the problems of the kashmir.kashmir belonmgs to only people of kashmir andonly their people can decide their future.this clear cut.
My Dear Sofi,
Think of the history of the West. Once European States were fighting with one another but to-day they are united and become most powerful. The States of US are now in unit while once Colorado and some other states were fighting for liberation and separation. To-day US is Super power. Sometime it is not possible to separate a part of the state just as the part of a body. By separating a hand or a leg, a body can not survive with full strength and beauty, similar the case with Kashmir. The people of Kashmir are no way different than the people of rest of India. Every sensible Indian will cry for the sufferings of every Kashmiri and every Kashmiri will suffer for every Punjabi, Marathi, Madraji etc.
Dear friends,kashmir issue is not simple as u think.Now the world is change in globel village.Many nations solve thier disputes through united nation(U.N).Kashmir issue is also in u.N.The u.N say according to his resulation 'do refrendom in whole j&k and now it is on kashmiri people that which country they choose to add with it(pakistan or india). and indian first p.M admit it.Pakistan want refrandom in azad kashmir an in iok kashmir under u.N observation and india denied it because india know that kashmiri people choose pakistan becoz of same religion,morality,culture,stratigic and natural path to pakistan and lot of other reasons. Pakistan want to resolve kashmir issue according to U.N resolation.
Hi Amir rajput,
Yes, you are right, world is changing very fast. Indian first PM wanted Kashmir to be solved by referendum under UN. But in the fist changing world a sea of change had occurred. Firstly Azad Kashmir is to be surrendered under Kashmir, which is not done. More over India can not accept voting on the sentiment of religion. Pakistan is a religious nation, but not India. Any decision of India based on religion is not acceptable to Indian people. If it is the very fabric of Indian Union will be broken and India will be divided into pieces. No Indian will accept it. Therefore solution must be based on current situation. The best solution is nothing but economic prosperity of the region. The whole of Europe consists of very small nations. They were also once in turmoil due to interest of inter-state. The economic prosperity has removed it. There is no difference in coins, no obligation to move easily from one state to another.
Hi Mr.Roy i describe many comman things not only religion.Many people of india and pakistan say that religion is personal thing.Thats why this is another issue.Pakistan has religion but pakistan is not religious in that point of view.Pakistan give equal rights to minorities.As a student of histry i tell u that u should learn 14 points of QUAID-e-AZAM the founder of pakistan in which he give independce of riligion.Europe has different idology in current context we coperate each like we both countries give m.F.N status in trade to each other.Economic stability is good for both countries.But we want to solve our disputes in good way.Pakistan is agree to occur refrendom in azad kashmir and we want that also india do refrendom in j&k under u.N observation.When this main dispute is solve then we concentrate on development of both countries.
If india is not religious than why thousands of sikh were killed.Why the muslims of gujrat were killed.Why indians kill the pakistani people who were going pakistan in train name 'samjhota express'.Who fell babri mosque.
Hi My Dear Friend Rajput,
You are mixing the emblems of the country with the particular incidents. Pakistan is a declared ‘Islamic Country’ where people of all religion can live. But the ethics of the country is ‘Islamic’. While Indian Union is a declared ‘a secular socialist Democratic Country’ where being people of all religion can live with equal right. The ethics of the country is not Hinduism or of any religion. There may be incidents, killing of Sikha, killing of Muslims by riot but this is for inefficient administration or a partially biased administration. The Law of the country is there and law will lead to the right conclusion of punishment.
Kashmir issue is not ethical it is a technical so Mr.Roy the issue of kashmir is not based on pakistan islamic identity u solve it by looking the other positive side that ur purpose is to obey the U.N resulation.It is not a method that first p.M mr. Nehru go to u.N and admit to do refrendom in kashmir and after this u say it sentimental, islamic,secular,ethic or what ever.It seems that u excape and time wasting.Now It is not just india pakistan issue but when mr.Nehru go to u.N this is declare as world body commited issue.It status is disputed b/w indopak.So it is disputed teritory and this dissputed territory is not declared as a province or state of india.So it is not in indian union thats why it is baseless that indian become sentimental on any base.india has no riGht on it.It is the right of kashmiri that they r free to choose any country on any base through refrendom
Yes, Mr. Raj put, you have written many valuable points but as an independent ordinary person I could say that the question of religion in regard to Kashmir can not be over looked, while the basis of the division of the country was based on religion. The King of Kashmir joined the Indian Union at the time of independence as per the rule as accession permitted by Queen’s declaration. But immediately after that Pakistan attacked Kashmir and the matter went to UN. Now it is more than 60 years. Nothing is happened. Do you think UN or any other power can do anything without the wishes of the victim country? There are many international problems lying in UN for years together. My little intelligence only finds an amicable solution through an economic improvement.
ASA H P Roychoudhury
I belong to Azad (Free) Kashmir.
I have spend one hour and read every single word, some of my Kashmiri brothers wrote in detail about why they want freedom or want to go with Pakistan and one who write detail and quote the facts and figures of last 60 years that what happened in Kashmir and what Kashmiri always wants.
I would request you to read all the comments and analyse that you are struck on one thing that ( FROM YOUR COMMENTS ONE THING CLEARLY COME UP WHAT EVER IS HAPPENING IN KASHMIR YOU WANT THAT KASHMIR SHOULD STAY APART OF INDIA BECAUSE KASHMIR IS INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA)
In one of your comment you said you are very simple person you are not political and just analyse what are you thinking you are not political and as a simple person you are not agree to understand and write the real situation and as a writer you present only few peoples are freedom fighter in Kashmir. as a human being its your job if God give you power to write you will write such columns to give message to those who dont know the situation of Kashmir. you are writer and the way you talk you may be a nice person person/Human being from inside but from outside in expressing you are only indian.
Brother i would suggest you even all the writer of the world start writing that India is right and kashmiris are wrong the freedom fight will never stop and inshAllah the time will come when the God will give you courage to write against your army that TODAY IF KASHMIR IS WITH PAKISTAN OR SEPARATE STATE ITS ALL BECAUSE OF INDIAN. ARMY.
MIR MAJID
WORKER OF ALL JAMMU AND KASHMIR MUSLIM CONFERENCE
KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN
Mr.Roy. When mr.Nehru go to u.N on kashmir issue than u.N take a unanimesly passed resolation on kashmir that do refrendom in kashmir. After this india use delay tactics.7 million indian army troops r diploid in kashmir.Millions of inocent kashmiri people killed by indian army in iok.Many unamed graves r discoverd in iok and many dead bodies r present in single graves.These people r kill by cruel indian army.The only reason this that these kashmiri people want honourable life and want freedom.
I just have one solution ......... EDUCATION and job generation will help.. I work in IT Solution and services and get an opportunity to interact with people from various parts of the world..All have same set of problems..ROTI KAPDA MAKAAN as goes a famous Hindi movie. today out of no where, in my spare time, i went through all these posts. True.. India will not give up Kashmir..Pakistan knows Kashmir is not its part. So where lies the issue? If Pakistan leave its claim of Kashmir, I am pretty sure, the issue can be solved. Same lies with India, If India can trust a referendom !!!!!! As an Indian, we CAN NOT trust present Pakistani administration. And we are indeed concerned about the various "freedom movements". It's not that modern media does not picture a both-side-of-the-house picture.But somewhere there is a check mate. Resolve the check mate. Well, the check mate is not what should be the identity of of Kashmir as a geographical region. I would not say if it belongs to India or Pakistan or has always had an independent existence... It belongs to ALLAH..by Allah I mean the teachings of harmony, which indeed comes from non violence and helping nature, Ram Krishna Jesus prophet all are means u morons!! If any Muslim or Hindu or any person under sun can prove otherwise with modern rational approach, i would definetly ask him/her to propose a solution to the world. And I am really sorry for all those ignorant son-of-god , if u truly believe that Kashmir issue can be solved by any means other than non-voilence and holistic developement, integration with the mainstream.All teenagers, Get yourself something creative to do. Adults, may be start loving ur job, if u have any,or try looking for a decent one. Man ur family needs bread and peace. Think about it all the morons!! Happy Libation(from all prejudices!!)
mr.Avinash i think u should learn the histry.(ur lines shows that u think and view only one side. anywayes reality is much different which can not be change by ur thinking)
Pakistan knows very well that j&k is not a part india.
We have Roy Chowdhry and we have Arundhati, Subhash or Justice Tarkunde and without dragging in Pakistan and its hyped up "terrorism bogey" that goes in line with Assam, Naxalites, Maoists, Christian belt of north-east, Punjab and needless to mention Kashmir where two generations have been wiped out, a punishment to subdue and coerce asking for their legitimate rights. Kashmir is a problem concerning Kashmiris and leaving Kashmir alone is the only issue. Kashmir will not compromise on anything less than that. Let Pakistan nurse its wounds and India use its resources to delay the matter and expect to brush the atrocities on Kashmiris under the carpet. Mr Chowdhry, this simply will not work and some people in India have to be human enough to understand our predicament.
Hi Dear Ameer Tarin,
I appreciate your feelings of concern as a young devotee (I suppose) of Kashmir. But a real devotee should see an immediate way out for the benefit of the people living in Kashmir Valley in view of the existing situation. No body from outside can impose any solution. It is the people of Kashmir have to find out a solution, a workable solution under the present circumstances. A sustainable road never gets dirty because of movement of vehicle, as such continuation of any workable solution sustaining peace and tranquility will find out a way out in the course of time.
Sir Mr.H P Roychoudhury,
Your human nature Will be appreciated if you dear to put light on this poem
UNIDENTIFIED GRAVES OF KASHMIR: ???
I am an unidentified grave,
I am a mystry of your son,
I am the address of missing one,
I am not prison, but a heaven, I care and love them in this cave,
And you call me an unidentified grave.
Tell my nation, about my death, i was tortured till my breath,
And was buried, in the dark, by old mans hand,
And dogs bark, putted the last mud on my face,
I am called an unidentified grave,
Tell my father, don`t feel shame,
I was not criminal but a brave, died for the respect of my land,
Dumped somewhere in the dark cave,
Your SON is now an unidentified grave.
Tell my Brother for my mother to care, she is not able to stop her tear, searching me every place in stack,
I am not angry, so wil come back, I am buried, without my name,
Your brother is now an unidentified grave.
Tell my baby, was yet to come,
I was waiting for her to come,
Show my toys i brought for her,
And was restless, to play with her,
Find me Baby, somewhere in cave.
Your Father is now an unidentified grave.
Tell my love not to cry, I am a Kashmir, born to die,
Take care my family, and be happy,
I love you so much even in this cave,
Your love is now an unidentified grave.
Tell my friends no worry to have,
I am not alone,in this grave, their is buried one more brave,
This is not same as normal grave,
And i am called an unidentified grave,
I shouted and cried at my end,
It was my dreams and aims to end,
It was the end of my fame,
I shouted my nation, for me to save,
They buried me, with my name,
They call me now an UNIDENTIFIED GRAVE.
For Brave Young:
It is wonderful feeling of heart. But I will pray for you in your language as “I was not criminal but a brave, & will be a STAR for the respect of my land”.
The main thing is that india occupied kashmir and india do not want to give the right to freedom to kashmir.India has no legal and no moral right on kashmir.I condamned the illegal acts and killing of million kashmiries by unhuman cruel Indian army.
very informative
Hi Baruah,
Thanks for going through my article. My internet is now functioning.
if the people of kashmir wants azadi. why not we ready for that if we kept our forces out of the kashmir , put them on their respective borders to defend the state from outside attack or intrusion or accession then think about the economic development of the region,that will definately kept happy everyone isn't it.
Hi Sourab,
I am sorry I can not agree with your proposal. India has sacrificed its identity as a Hindu state at the time of partition and declared a secular state. Kashmir is a state of India as per the declaration of accession of princely state. If azadi of Kashmir is granted on religious basis, why does not in future India will grant South India a separate state on language basis?
outdoorsguy 24 months ago
good hub. lots of information. we can hope it will be resolved peacefully.